Random seed grew... Could it be a tree?
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I haven't messaged here in a while... I bought some worm castings from a local farmer to use in my houseplant mix this summer. Turns out it had lots of seeds in it. I got maybe 12 random seeds grow and a few of them veggie plants I put in the garden. The most interesting one is this one in the pictures. the leaves fold up downwards at night and come back out at sunrise. My first thought was Tamarind, but the seed casing was more long than round. I live in Nova Scotia Canada, and have the plant in my university dorm in an east facing window. I could put a grow light on it for the coming winter though. Any idea what it could be? The roots have started coming out of the tiny pot, should I put it in a bigger training pot? Maybe i should fertilize it? the latest leaf group has had 3 rows of leave where as the last two had 4 rows.?
I haven't messaged here in a while... I bought some worm castings from a local farmer to use in my houseplant mix this summer. Turns out it had lots of seeds in it. I got maybe 12 random seeds grow and a few of them veggie plants I put in the garden. The most interesting one is this one in the pictures. the leaves fold up downwards at night and come back out at sunrise. My first thought was Tamarind, but the seed casing was more long than round. I live in Nova Scotia Canada, and have the plant in my university dorm in an east facing window. I could put a grow light on it for the coming winter though. Any idea what it could be? The roots have started coming out of the tiny pot, should I put it in a bigger training pot? Maybe i should fertilize it? the latest leaf group has had 3 rows of leave where as the last two had 4 rows.?
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Posted 3 days 16 hours ago #86683
If you want to narrow down possible species start with what trees can be found around you. The likeliness of a local farmer that produce worm casting in nova scotia ends up with tropical seeds in his product seems very low.
To add on to the likellyness discussion. It is highly unlikelly that any tree grown from a andom seed that came in a novia scotia produced worm casting can be grown in livingroom conditions. So without knowing species, the best bet would be to grow it outdoors.
on your question about fertilizer, now is not the time of the year to fertilize.
To add on to the likellyness discussion. It is highly unlikelly that any tree grown from a andom seed that came in a novia scotia produced worm casting can be grown in livingroom conditions. So without knowing species, the best bet would be to grow it outdoors.
on your question about fertilizer, now is not the time of the year to fertilize.
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Posted 3 days 16 hours ago #86684
Thanks for the reply,?
I haven't found any plant here in NS that looks like it. I already asked on another plant forum and they said tamarind, but I too am doubtful. I'm not sure how it ended up in there. My best guess is someone was eating tamarinds and put the pits in the worm bin. it could be a?Caesalpinia pulcherrima or something maybe, but again even more unlikely to end up in a NS worm bin. I just thought someone here might know the species. Since it's in my dorm I don't really have a great outdoor space, so I will just see how it goes inside.?
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I haven't found any plant here in NS that looks like it. I already asked on another plant forum and they said tamarind, but I too am doubtful. I'm not sure how it ended up in there. My best guess is someone was eating tamarinds and put the pits in the worm bin. it could be a?Caesalpinia pulcherrima or something maybe, but again even more unlikely to end up in a NS worm bin. I just thought someone here might know the species. Since it's in my dorm I don't really have a great outdoor space, so I will just see how it goes inside.?
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Posted 3 days 15 hours ago #86685
Yes, it make sense that the tree could come from something eatable that is imported. But when I look at pictures of tamarind seeds they are huge. I would expect it to be sifted away during production. If not sifted away, still you would notice them right?
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Here is the seed casing that fell off of the?cotyledons. It's almost 2.5cm. I must have just scooped it up when I filled the pot. It looks too long and not round enough to be a tamarind, but still unsure.?
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Posted 2 days 20 hours ago #86692
Here is a better picture with the leaves out?
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Posted 1 day 15 hours ago #86706
Google Lens is probably the best way to find the species.?
There are other apps, some of which are plant specific.?
There are other apps, some of which are plant specific.?
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Posted 1 day 14 hours ago #86707
I tried 3 different plant identifier apps and google lens on this one. Many trees with compound leafs looks very similar, so quite a lot of different answers. I just quickly scrolled throe it and the only tree known to be a common food item is tamarind.
Sinse it is most likelly to come into worm casting from a known food source, my guess is tamarind.
Sinse it is most likelly to come into worm casting from a known food source, my guess is tamarind.
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That's what I thought too. I tried a couple identifiers as well as google lens, and they said tamarind.
The first thing I did was look for tamarind seed varieties that look like this one, and found none. I came to the conclusion that based on the seed casing being 2.5cm and not round shaped at all, it must not be tamarind.
The second thing is that the day I bought the worm castings I had a farmers market booth giving out seeds in soil that I was mixing. I only bought the castings when I ran out of other dark earth compost soil. I had a small collection of exotic seeds to give and trade with the local bonsai growers. One of the seed packs I had was flame tree seeds. A Flame tree seed must have fallen into the mix. Upon checking online pics of flame tree saplings vs. tamarind the small details suggest it is the former.?
Now that I have a pretty good idea of what tree it is, what should I do moving forward? I will try to give it the best care I can. It will have to be grown indoors, should I get it under a grow light for the winter??
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The first thing I did was look for tamarind seed varieties that look like this one, and found none. I came to the conclusion that based on the seed casing being 2.5cm and not round shaped at all, it must not be tamarind.
The second thing is that the day I bought the worm castings I had a farmers market booth giving out seeds in soil that I was mixing. I only bought the castings when I ran out of other dark earth compost soil. I had a small collection of exotic seeds to give and trade with the local bonsai growers. One of the seed packs I had was flame tree seeds. A Flame tree seed must have fallen into the mix. Upon checking online pics of flame tree saplings vs. tamarind the small details suggest it is the former.?
Now that I have a pretty good idea of what tree it is, what should I do moving forward? I will try to give it the best care I can. It will have to be grown indoors, should I get it under a grow light for the winter??
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Posted 1 day 5 hours ago #86710
Not that I have any experience myself with that species.
i read that they are most abundant in subtropical rainforests. Most trees from subtropical environment do best if they get temperature drops in winter. It is possible to keep them in active growth via grow light, but it is not as good as chilling them down. But that experience is from mediteranean type trees that want to be in dry conditions in winter. What you have is a rainforest species that love humid conditions. Sinze both central heating and grow light lower humidity, I would not think that livingroom temperature and grow light is an option. I would do everything possible to keep temperature low and humidity high in winter.
i read that they are most abundant in subtropical rainforests. Most trees from subtropical environment do best if they get temperature drops in winter. It is possible to keep them in active growth via grow light, but it is not as good as chilling them down. But that experience is from mediteranean type trees that want to be in dry conditions in winter. What you have is a rainforest species that love humid conditions. Sinze both central heating and grow light lower humidity, I would not think that livingroom temperature and grow light is an option. I would do everything possible to keep temperature low and humidity high in winter.
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